newcastle brown ale ruined

Big money beer giant ruining an amazing beer. Please!?! $12.99. So much for the one and only. I spent 30 years enjoying Newcastle at my favorite pizza joints and pubs, and at home on holidays and special events. Its trash. why not make both? You are responsible for regularly reviewing this Policy and any changes thereto. Who stole my New Castle!!! Fortunately I have found an alternate use for the remaining beers left in this unfinished 12 pack. Have enjoyed this beer for 20 years, bought this 12 pack, after first sip I noticed the hoppy taste, just a replica of all the IPA beer being made now. So Heineken, you and your new NCBA crap, take a hike! Bad move Newcastle, you will be extinct in 12 months! I guess because Heineken now owns the name, they can put it on anything they want. Mash grains at 154F (68C) for 60 minutes. It could have been millions or more. It was created in 1927 by Colonel Jim Porter in Newcastle, England during two years of painstaking development, where he sought to develop a unique tasting beer combining the full flavour of ale with easy drinkability. I like everyone else was Shell Shocked when tasting this disaster. Why ? Choose from Same Day Delivery, Drive Up or Order Pickup. Laguntas and Heineken you should be ashamed of yourselves. What a disappointment. I hope your happy. Did you not learn from Coke? New Castle came in a clear bottle, if you got a 12 pack which packaged the bottles out of the light, it was the nectar of the gods, bottles buried in ice it was the ultimate summer beer. Ill have to agree with everyone on this topic! I feel like I lost my best friend. Because it is not the Newcastle Beer it SHOULD be. Copper and grapefruit, are you flippin kidding me! Kent Goldings hopsat :90 1 oz. Heineken (which I dumped years ago) and Lagunitas (IPAs make me puke), congratulations you fouled up a product thats been around and popular since 1927. All i find is the new version. Then I looked it up. Ruined my favorite beer. Read my lips: UP YOURS! heineken you really turned brown gold into a huge smelly turd. I shall never buy another unless I see a new marketing campaign indicating that they have gone back to the old recipe. Born and raised in Scotland, Newcastle Brown was a regular item growing up. This new recipe SUCKS! It is not only more bitter, it tastes pretty bad. I was excited and had hoped the second one was the OldCastle but unfortunately, just another 12 of this garbage. Give the people what they want again!!!! Some one seriously needs their asses kicked for this. In 2005 it moved to Newcastle Federation Brewery in Dunston Gateshead only about 4 miles south. The greatest of Ales, with one of the nicest initial tastes and after tastes known in the beer drinking community. Might consider changing the name to Newcrapple. This is nothing more than another feeble effort of craft breweries to brew a brown ale. They screwed up a perfect beer! Both brands are owned by Heineken, which made the switch as part of the U.S. relaunch of Newcastle Brown Ale. Shop $ 18.98. ex. I poured the remaining bottles down the drain as well. The Lagunitas version is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Newcastle Brown Ale. I immediately complained to my wife about buying the wrong New Castle box. Way to go on making a shit beer!!! Way to turn an old favorite into generic crap. Newcastle had been my favorite beer for over 20 years. Im returning the two unopened cases tomorrow. Follow; The brand will continue to be marketed . (0.23-0.45 kg) per 5 gallons (19 L). Newcastle Brown Ale is smooth, crisp, and slightly roasty because it is brewed with a unique blend of pale and roasted malts and American hops. I know that our comments are often disregarded and dumped into the waste basket. It doesnt taste hoppy at all. The new recipe taste just like Budweiser. But this is not a beer you want to get that cute with. Now I know the full story and am devastated. I have switched to Smithwicks Red Ale (used to be my backup) and Negra Modelo. Ive been drinking NewCastle Brown Ale for 30+ years. When my usual retailer stocked the ale again I thought it was just a packaging change. After a fairly shaky start to the day, Arthurs mind was beginning to reassemble itself from the shell-shocked fragments the previous day had left him with. A good thing shouldnt be messed with. Ive always thought Heineken beer, in its green bottle, was one of the skunkiest tasting beers around. To the contrary, Lagunitas Master Brewer Jeremy Marshal pointed out that the Chicago brewery uses a British-style house yeast. Ugh. Now its just one more forgettable choice in the beer aisle. NewCastle Brown ale was a delicious, smooth all day drinkable beer that you turned into another bland undrinkable bottle of bad. Dammit! Newcastle Brown Ale Clone. In summary, today Newcastle is a great place for beer, micro-breweries and micro-pubs but nobody gives a shit about Newcastle Brown any more its history only, and the corporate brewers can do what they like with it, as if we care! Immediately went out and cleaned out two stores of their stock which will last me about 6 months. I dont drink beer too often and now I probably wont hardly ever again after this. Unless of course I go to one of the great craft breweries we have in the Houston area. Why on earth did they have to take a toasty sweet delicious original and make it a mediocre American craft? Lots of other actually good tasting brown ales out there. Now we cannot even get them here. It was the one beer that was dependably tasty and always the same; slightly sweet, malty, with great body. February 7, 2019. Someone (or maybe A LOT of someones) needs to get fired. WE DONT WANT AN IPA. It really was unique though. Where did our Newcastle go..?? R.I.P my poor beloved Newcastle. Im not joking, Its The Only Beer I drink damit!!! This Lagunitas version is crap, it looks like the vast majority of us agree. This new so-called beer SUCKS!! All they care about is profit. As I stated before, this new recipe is crap. In the Toon. This is one of the dumbest decisions I can imagine. The new variation will be produced at Lagunitas' breweries in Petaluma, Calif., and Chicago and will be available in 12-ounce bottles in six-, 12- and 24-packs. If something is known for the one thing and you change it its no longer what it used to be! Unfortunately, LCBO and The Beer Store are out of it and I have no idea when theyll get more in. Two that I have been on for a while are Fat Tire, and one from Tampa area Big Storm Brewings Wave Runner. I was really looking forward to returning to Newcastle. Commence boil and add half the boiling hops to each kettle at the specified time, then half the flavor hops at the specified time. Newcastle was my favorite beer for well over 25 years. Its not even remotely close to the real thing. These two beers have been very satisfying. NEWCASTLE BROWN ALE 4FT Wall Sign Plaque bottle beer Pub Bar Man cave garage . Screw you Heineken. Last Sale: $1,550.NIKE dunk sb low newcastle brown Then I researched and saw that it is brewed by Lagunitas, the lame AF brewery that sued Sierra Nevada over a font. Nor does the beer-geek part, including a 500-barrel German-made brew system that looks like the massive gleaming engines of the Starship Enterprise. Not sure what they changed but they need to go back. The famous logo with the blue star dates back to the time of the beer's launch in 1930. What were they thinking? Bottles Reservoir Wines and Spirits MA: Brighton Beer and spirits only available for pickup and local delivery. The new recipe is typical American so-called craft brewery swill, that hipsters drink too make them feel important and sophisticated. Altogether an uncommonly balanced Brown. The Lagunitas version is not the same. Trouble is some are regional brews. My favorite. After a long love affair, Im done with New Castle for good. I thought I was done with my rant but Im going to keep going. I brought 6 bottles today and its as good as ever, its sad that its been ruined in the US Lagunitas has a pro-cannabis stance, and the eclectic, trippy dcor does not disappoint. Major miss by your executive team. Why would you take the one old reliable good classic brown ales and turn it in to one of those trending over hoppy swill beers? Free standard shipping with $35 orders. Production moved from Newcastle to Gateshead at the end of 2004 and to Tadcaster on closure of the Dunston brewery in 2010. torrified wheat 1.5 oz. No wonder why you dont see it that much in the stores nowdays! Its the taste, the subtle flavors, sans the bitter aftertaste, the hoppy note. I have been drinking this beer for 20 plus years and bought a six pack a few weeks ago and noticed new packaging never thought they would change the beer, why mess with perfection. Hopefully, Chicago continues to experiment and brings out another version, cause this one fails, I guess its back to Bass Ale. Check availability. I actually was look online to see if there was any recalls as of late when I noticed not only was it brewed in the USA but they changed the recipe? There are plenty of great ales on the store shelves which will see an increase in sales because we will Not be buying Newcastle again. Alongside McKewans IPA and Best Scotch. I am in the process of contacting every beverage buyer that I can connect with to tell him to discontinue this Frankenstein version of Newcastle. This stuff brewed by Lagunitas is crap that tastes nothing like real Newcastle, but rather a dirty ashtray. BRING IT BACK!! Whats the point? The petition has had pathetic results. Lagunitas would have been better off developing their own English brown ale and selling that, rather than sully the name of what was once a cracking beer by peddling its corpse. How rare it was in those days. Wellbeen more than a year and the new New Castle Brown STILL SUCKS! Its nice to know i am not the only old fart that still remembers the original Newcastle brown (i can even spell it as one word). Ive recommended this beer to so many people and now Ive made my last recommendation. Located in the north east of England, the city of Newcastle has a long and proud history of brewing which dates back to the 1500s. What kind of idiot factory are you guys running over there? Michelob Amber Boch maybe??? I have been drinking the one and only for over 25 years.I cant stomach this bitter, hoppy taste labeled as Newcastle.it is not Newcastle! Its very good and helps support the Cajun brewers. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); EPG Media LLC wants you to have a positive experience in connection with our products and services. Now, the problem. Newcastle Brown Ale The One and Only Brewery Promo Beer Pint Glasses Lot of 2. You guys really messed this one up. Thank you for the recommendation. The new Newcastle is terrible. they seem to cater to the stoner pothead crowd that doesnt mind the acrid bitterness of Chinook and centennial hops. I bought a second one a couple weeks later and it was NASTY. I also know that large companies do not care about our thoughts about their products as long as the money flows. We have complained to both Heineken and Lagunitas. Newcastle is an icon of beer and youve completely ruined it. Sad day indeed. Think of all the new craft brews that are selling. I migrated to Kilt Lifter a while back but went back to Newcastle (when it was really Newcastle). It would be like letting Budweiser brew Guiness. the other guy. Newcastle was just and ugly, berry flavored beer but people loved it. You guys are freaking hilarious! I thought it was just me on my first one, but while trying a second one I was thinking to myself that this tastes like a Very Poorly Made IPA, and then did a quick web search and found out I wasnt the only one to have their Favorite Beer ruined. Fuck them sideways, Fuck it all. Great business plan Lagunitas, take an already great ale and wipe your asses all over it? We all got together for a party last weekend and to a man agreed that the new recipe is trash. Look if people like the dog as it was then promote that flavour , if you want to entice drinkers that dont like the dog then give them another brew , that way you can target everyone and alienate no one considering the number of flavours available by each brewery , faffing about with our drinks is a joke it probably tastes like the office US. Too many choices out ther to worry about Heiniken mistake, screw them! I hope the Dutch Piece of shit that is the officer in the company that bought Newcastle hates himself for being a totally worthless piece of living crap. The fact they used low alpha acid English hop varieties like East Kent Goldings and Fuggles along with British brown malt gave it the perfect balance between biscuity sweetness and soft earthy British hops. New Newcastle sucks. Heinken and Lagunitas have destroyed it. Nice lighter taste and easy drinkability like NC Brown. I have not tasted a good one yet. Heineken inherited Newcastle Brown Ale in 2008 with the acquisition of the Scottish & Newcastle company, moving its brewing to the Netherlands. I actually spit it out! Not only am I never buying this again, Im never buying another Heineken product again EVER out of spite! As Rich mentioned above, it was just a flippant response about their great re-imaginations and they are sorry I dont care for it but they hope I come around to eventually love it. This is not the beer I know as New Castle. You cant even feel good that the lable is the same, at least that is the first warning. Dumped 11 and bought a 12 of modelo negra. Been there, done that. I had to google why does Newcastle taste like shit now? To find this article. Click & Collect. Being Dutch I gave it a fair shot and although the flavor was slightly different, I found it very acceptable. On his visits to the USA, he found Shiner Bock to be the closest thing made to the Blue Star Broon Ale, Yes! Spot on commentary! I complained to the management of Safeway until they moved it further down the shelf. Newcastle used to be a unique good beer. Just wish they hadnt chosen my favorite beer to f**k with. Heres a hashtag to trend We used to love Newcastle and now its terrible! I was over the moon when i moved to the USA and could get Newcastle, now i will never ever buy this rubbish again IDIOTS! I usedto go to TGIfridays who had it on tap and it was just the best. Originaly brewed in Newcastle, as the name would suggest, brewing moved to Tadcaster in 2010. I will not be buying any of the new recipe ever again, neither will any of our many friends who lustfully enjoyed original Newcastle. They ruined it! How long will these douchebags live in fantasy and denial before they get a clue and bring back the real formula? A shell of the original, made by an average brewery to US standards and practices. All those potential sales gone cause you changed the formula. Well then change the F-in name and make a new one. Everybody I ran into doing the same, swore NOT to buy the new nasty tasting Lagunitas-made Newcastle. I have been reading this thread for probably a year now and contributed early on and here is a solution. Please alter the name as you have completely altered and ruined my favorite brown ale! Bottles would have to do. There are thousands of other beers if you want another flavor. And to the makers and owners of Heineken brewery: you should be ashamed of yourselves! My wife bought a 12 pack thinking it was the same beer with a new label. Taste just like most other American beers..Like piss! It like drinking Budweiser natural lights garbage total garbage bring back the original I will not buy another Newcastle ever again. I just bought a six pack for the first time since the change. Will be the last I purchase unless its changed back. Horrible idea to shift from the old recipe and keep the same name. And I will not drink this nor will I EVER buy a lugintas product for the rest of my life. Im not sure exactly what all changed, but I dont like it. Will NOT be purchasing this, nor anything by Lagunitas and, if I can help it, anything from the Heineken conglomerate. One day I wake up and La Gunitas and some European-ass-fucking-corporated-fucks destroy one of the few things that make the working man happy. COME GET THIS SHIT OUT OF MY REFRIDGERATOR!!! Customer loyalty is your brand!!! First they stopped importing Tuborg Gold They changed Coke. There are always 2 or 3 bozos chiming in who claim to like the new stuff better, and they are the only people that get responses from the overlords. I just tried the new New Castle..well it was so bad I spit it out! Very dissapointed with the new product. Lagunitas isnt qualified to make Newcastle. Ive enjoyed Newcastle for years, its been my Go to now its my No way and nor would I recommend it. Only 3 left. Maybe we can all figure out how to ship it to us directly from U.K. Well add me to the lengthy list of the disappointed. I started a conversation with a guy who was also pondering the available selection or brews and made my point about the spoiled Newcastle. Nay suggestions? Try it folks. Im super sad. Can you please pass on my friendly complaint to Lagunitas, who I think is brewing Newcastle under license in CA , regarding their brewing of Newcastle beer. Please go back to original formula and bottle. This is sad, sub par and patently ridiculous. They should at least have offered both recipes. Ive asked the bartenders and they all tell me that the customers hate it and noticed the change immediately. That's because production has moved from the Netherlands to the U.S., where Chicago's Lagunitas Brewery will now make the beer under a new recipe. Yes, it has regained the old smooth unique tast. Did no one taste this first? As with all the other commentors, Im moving on from this. I get home crack one open and.omg.noplease no. Remember The New Coke. Newcastle Brown Ale is a beloved English beer, known for its distinctive flavour and amber hue. Hey Guys, I got a 12 pack last week and from my taste perspective, its back. Totally fooled me. I been drinking newcastle for past 20 years I just bought The new Newcastle I open my first bottle and tested and it test like shit I had dump my 24 case in dumpster I would never ever by the newscaster again Please go back to the original newcastle. What the HELL did they do to my beer! Ever since Newcastle production moved out of England, its gone downhill. Just take what you have and give it to someone you dont like and search for a worthy replacement. Bland boring beer. I will have to find another brown ale that someone didnt feel the need to fix. I suggest you pour all of it back into the horses from whence it came. Also Brown was never available on tap, only in pint (English pint ie 20oz) bottles. I was served one the new ones yesterday in a restaurant and sent it back; googled it and found the bad news. The New Castle is passable just do not expect Newcastle and it will be ok. RIP Newcastle! Newcastle was MY FAVORITE BEER!!!!!!!! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It is almost impossible to find traditional English ales these days and craft breweries pretty much dont try to make English ales. Newcastle Brown Ale 121 Results ale brown bier Spiral Notebook By ercedeswood $13.16 $16.45 (20% off) Shearer 9 Raised Arm Celebration Sticker By FootballArcade From $2.52 Brown Ale Newcastle Sticker By otirno From $1.35 Classic Newcastle subbuteo team design Sticker By Subsnapper 73 From $1.68 Newcastle Brown Ale Sticker Plus it has more alcohol so I am forced to drink less. Now you have lost your core customer base. What a joke. You just lost the business of a couple of lifelong fans! The 6 packs that exposed the clear bottles to light, it had more of a green bottle beer taste. I can drink every single style of beer there is but if they even think of calling this hoppy they are wrong. you have no right in changing this. Newcastle WAS one of the best beers and quality beers I have ever had the pleasure to drink.. this is pure SHIT!!! HORRIBLE taste. I think you guys made a big mistake. Awful idea, awful taste. This isn't as bitter as it could be. I dont think its that bad, but I do prefer the original. Drinkers familiar with Lagunitas will likely think one word for this brewery: hoppy. If you do not continue to use the EPG websites following a change to our Policy but take no other action with respect to your personal information, our use of that information will remain subject to our Policy as it was in effect prior to the change. This is really a terrible beer. Now it just tastes like any other brown ale. From one of the best brews ever to pure crap. Dont change your fomula. Its not as creamy as the original. Just make a new beer you idiots, dont take away one, smh. It is horrible.i have not had one since the change. What a disaster. NewNewcastle sucks. Tastes nothing like my once favorite beer and i couldnt be more disappointed. I hadnt had Newcastle in a couple years, but was having a delicious summer dinner with a friend: I had just shucked a dozen oysyers, made a roasted corn salad, and a caprese salad from the garden, and had a taste for Newcastle. And Smithwicks? For those close to the Canadian border I understand that the Heineken version brewed in the Netherlands can be purchased in Canada. No more skunky New Castle! We are sorry to hear you didnt enjoy our relaunched Newcastle Brown Ale. When sales improve, the brand may consider extensions. sales tax. "We will now achieve the distinctive colouring and flavour of Newcastle Brown Ale, that our consumers enjoy, by using roasted malts instead." The chemical causing the fuss is. My friends and I used to call it the creme soda of beers because of how tasty and drinkable it was. Its not even good for what it is going for. I dont see the purpose of purchasing a name then changing the recipe. Make the original formula please. BREWERIANA - NEWCASTLE BROWN ALE - SERVE COOL - BEER MAT - T22. After drinking Newcastle Brown ale for 25 years I now refuse this modern muck Your point is a good one Michael. In 2010 brewing was moved to John Smiths brewery Tadcaster North Yorkshire until the present day The best thing that can be done is to sign this, https://www.change.org/p/heineken-usa-bring-classic-newcastle-brown-ale-back. Americans havent brewed a decent beer since George Washington. Trying a few we can report back. Got the taste for it when both my son and younger daughter were attending Rutgers College in New Brunswick, NJ, and we would stop for lunch at any one of several pubs nearby, each of which had Newcastle on tap I never even noticed when Newcastle moved their brewing to Europe, BECAUSE they DIDNT CHANGE the F.ING RECIPE! Hopefully Lagunitas goes out of business soon. It tastes like a traditional English brown ale to me. Now drop it , and get back to the real thing again. 7.99. But for me it was the Yuengling lager version of a brown ale. We may never get the old NCB back, but we need better than the current crap! Oh, they changed the bottle, ok. I will not be drinking this pig swill from Lagunitas that is masquerading as Newcastle Brown. Just an FYI for the hundreds or thousands of disappointed brown ale drinkers, try Shiner Bock. I cant see how sales had slumped if everyone that drinks it is complaining. Fans of Newcastle Brown Ale will notice a new flavor. Considering all the things that government does that it has no business doing, the one thing it should do is protect the public from fraud. Ill never buy it again! From 1927 to 2005 it was brewed at The Tyne Brewery in Newcastle It has been said that the malt is dried over open flames. I tried a couple of Big Skys Moose Drool and its not bad. The rest of the 6-pack is still sitting in my fridge. 4,7% EBC: 50 IBU: 18 Mere information So disappointed. Not buying it anymore, unless I can find the orginal one. Heineken has successfully alienated the whole consumer base for Newcastle. So disappointing! As many others have said, it was my favorite beer for many years. After first sip, completely disappointed. Change it back! Bummer, not available in NM Why ruin a Great tasting beer that millions of us enjoy?! And promptly went to get a refund. I wont ever drink the new crappy IPA but would love to have my favorite Newcastle beer back. 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