england is depressing and full of chavs
I am very sorry to hear about your experience in the UK, but it has become all too common these days. It's proven that immigration is a totally positive thing for a country, and historically immigrants have contributed FAR more than they have received. I strongly suggest that you may sometimes take the time to travel a little and open your horizons. No country or culture is perfect of course, but we always have to ask ourselves what we're willing to put up with and sometimes it's not worth it. Then millions on renegotiating deals with countries who don't need the UK. Firstly may I compliment a well written and fascinating article! In Ontario (particularly in Toronto), the term is "hoodman", an equivalent of the term "roadman" used in England. x. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. As others have pointed out, you are very much enjoying North Yorks, of the more wealthy and most socially and politically Conservative parts of the North and Britain. And, the Americans assisted in WWII yes, however even you can't say if that was the ultimate reason why we ended up victorious in that war. British people love Italy. British culture is now 'whatevers' and to even have any expectations or respect is 'right wing' or some sort of phobia or ism. The former was better and now everything is different, I am glad to hear the position of an immigrant who has realised how society has changed. The cold, the racism, the bigotry, the expense, the American attitudes of greed and money over morality, the awful changes to education, the privatisation of everything. Hi Cory, Many Thanks for this amazing post, it is the most realistic picture of UK currently. Have you considered leaving Europe and heading to places like Australia and New Zealand? Thanks again! In case you dont know much about Balkan food (clearly you dont), we have kebabs (mici in Romania, cevapi in ex-Yugoslavia countries), spicy vegetable spreads and dips, apple, cherry and pumpkin pies and strudels, sour noodle soups, SEASONINGS (so shocking for British palates I know) such as paprika, chilli sauces, garlic dips, shawarmas (thats another kebab for you), cheesy or jam filled doughnuts, the cabbage rolls you mentioned are filled with meat, rice and spices! No school for my kids.. All too expensive. They say immigration is an issue but so is emigration. Can you imagine that? The weather and the cost of housing compared to net salary are also the 2 biggies for me. I can accept Brexit and people being bored of foreginers, it's understandeable. No, they make a very fair point. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "chav" as a "young person from the working class, usually without a high level of education." In 2004, it was announced as the Oxford Languages "Word of the Year" and entered the mainstream, appearing in documentaries and television shows. Portugal is fantastic, and Morocco and Albania? First, the British are NOT RACIST. I see that you have just joined this forum and reading your answers you seem to be from the UK. Good luck on your move and finding the sun. Over half the worlds patented inventions are British. Yes, I disagree with Brexit, but that is the nature of democracy. There was a time when we loved the UK, were pleased by the level of comfort this country offered. In an ideal world none of these things should matter. About 12 years ago when I came to study in Manchester, Britain was a different place. So last year bought a house in a mountain town in the Sierra Nevada mountains. How's that logical? Once I would have thought you were exaggerating. Even the communities which have not integrated over 40-50yrs (lessons learnt? Well done!! You are laughable, John! Consequently, Europeans are being bundled up in this debate immigration debate, in my view unfairly - we all work very hard! I do believe it should have its own independence and continue to be part of the EU as its citizens want. We are now in Portugal and we miss the prices for groceries in the UK BUT with everything, life is still such much cheaper here. They enjoy free movement and actually, the vast majority don't have full-time jobs in the country of residency. By 2004, the word was used in national newspapers and common parlance in the UK. Food for thought! chav meaning: 1. an insulting word for someone, usually a young person, whose way of dressing, speaking, and. He was an inspiration to us all. It makes me laugh that immigrants come over and then complain about high cost of housing and transport. If anything, people are genuinely interested where I'm from and then proceed to tell me my home country is better than Britain as that's the British way - complaining :D. Weather: Especially the South East and London actually have less rain than most places in Europe and much less rain than New York or Seattle for instance (according to statistics). I cant have a conversation with anyone, I dont feel like they get me. Good luck to you! Whether we're talking about comparatively deprived areas such as Jaywick, which one resident memorably described as 'like a Brazilian favela' or a posher market town such as Torquay - a town where, according to one disenchanted local "chavs . -Tv - Crap and, you need A PAID LICENSE to tolerate that crap. The word chav is a relatively new one in British English, used to describe a supposed social group defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "a young person of a type characterised by brash and loutish behaviour and the wearing of designer-style clothes usually with connotations of a low social status". It is the term Chav that is uncommon to me. Hi, I can see what you mean in your article. That's a pretty sad position to be in. Then throughout the 00's until present day the fascist tabloids managed take away what we had gained. I have a Polish wife, and we've been increasingly travelling full-time. Oh, don't believe the popular etymologies that you read sometimes in the press and on websites. We lived in Bristol, Bob. To further reassure myself that my English level was adequate enough for me to get a job, I went to University and took a language exam. But there are a damnsight more British born citizens abusing the system in the same way. Would you come and live in the UK or would you rather take the road somewhere warmer? We've just moved to the UK and we're loving it so far, though we are probably still doe-eyed and innocent about it all. I am half Spanish but raised and born in the uk. Macron says the French would vote to leave the EU if they had the chance and Italy is more anti-EU than the UK. I felt I was just paying for a handed off degree (and I was in supposedly one of the top unis). Also, if Brexit is such a good idea, why not let Northern Ireland secede and let Scotland have its independence? there are times I just break down in tears thinking about how screwed I really am and I am not a dual national so I cannot leave the United Kingdom any time soon even though I desperately want to leave. This helped me feel not so alone <3. As a Brit, I can say that most of what you say is true. But at least I can say that I chose the ticket that the racist people didn't choose! So many people prefer going abroad when there are so many wonderful places to see within the country. This means that you pay for parking everywhere, house prices goes up and MORE IMPORTANTLY, access to nature is RESTRICTED. The weather of the UK is the best of anywhere in the world. However, it is shocking to still hear people moaning about immigrants coming to Britain for the sake of benefits, whereby it is the vast majority of immigrants who pay the most taxes. I do feel that we have so much potential and we could learn so much from one another. Somehow strongly connected with the point above, there is the problem of the land management in the UK. If you think the only "British" dishes are the Sunday roast, fish and chips, pies and bleedin toad in the hole then you're a bit of a divvy. It sucks that you can't wear a dress unless you go on holiday. My god the atmosphere was one of the strangest I had ever felt after that. Last year i went to London and y find it very interesting, because there are many differences with Chile. As to Philip de Boses' pathetic comment about the British being cowards - are you French by the way? I have a diploma in counter terrorism policy. I grew up as an expat kid and global citizen so I don't really understand the veil of staunch patriotism to one country. One of Schmitt's rules of nation building was to always create an enemy OUTSIDE your country if you want to make your country better and stronger. But I'm not shocked. Those who are racist can be found anywhere, even in your own country. We need to stand together and show the world that love prevails. I think people come to the UK and expect a paradise. But it's problem is it deals with that with 'abacus economics' of just letting anyone in, mostly unskilled and low-paid. The UK blames, as you said, hard-working Poles, Romanians, and now the whole EU. In waging this campaign she weakened British industry to the point that it never really recovered and turned the UK into the one-horse (and one town - London) financial market centre it has been ever since. Very interesting! If so, hilarious coming from you. Immigrants are the people who are willing to give up their rights, liberties and cultures, in order to work for the sake of your government, your country, your society and your benefits. Yet, almost 9 Million (!) Because you don't seem to have widen your horizons much We truly hope you stay in the UK because Europe is so much better off without people like you. I identify as immigrant as I'm British Naturalised and recently returned home from spending most of the last decade living overseas in Asia-Pac (Australia and Singapore). I also lived and worked in Greater London. We have some of the best sports in the world, Wimbledon and the Premiership for example. Answer (1 of 9): Hello Ian Kent and welcome to Quora. But don't just take my word for it. A birth country that doesn't fully accept me because I speak different, act different, live differently than the majority. I can't help but share your sentiment. We gave more money in international aid to poor countries than the all the EU combined and only second in the world after the US, and yet people still complain we are mean spirited and vote us at the lowest in Eurovision Britain is a beacon for generosity and immigrants. It was kind of sad, even more so when I look back in it. I think you got it all right! I have a partner and were happy but other than that relationship I have no fulfilment. Well, England has gotten less safe because of the mass invasion of fighting age males from overpopulated Muslim countries. Education is in a terrible state in the UK. You can't have a first worldly state and have open borders. I think the part which shocked me the most was how friendly everyone seemed, how customer-oriented the service was tailored and the sheer amount of prospects anyone could benefit from. I am treated like a stellar class citizen. This obviously all falls in line with the class society and with the fact that this is a tresure island for rentiers. Politics aside, I hope it gets better here, but I dont see it happening anytime soon. Gloucester has been featured on a popular website dedicated to 'chav towns'. Sadly, the internet is full of these instances so there isn't much point me going through them. Try to own more than one property in many countries and you will really feel the heat from the taxman. Your comment deserved a huge round of applause. Just waiting for the contract on my house to run out in July. I hope you find a new place you will call home. Surprise surprise, a racist in a racist country, what was I expecting?! Vote for the party that helps people, understands and values human rights. Having lived abroad for so long, we've learnt a lot of things about ourselves, other countries and the UK. I moved to London 6 months ago from another wealthy Western European country, in search of better work opportunities, to further my career and basically to build a life. In my case in Prague, some of these romantic ideas just never materialized the way I thought they would, or my perception has changed. Why? As much as you might like the rain (and I already said that I vehemently love the rain), it eventually gets to you. Australia is pretty great, I am not surprised you miss it! In Germany I have never felt discriminated against as a foreigner. It has changed from a land of invention and innovation to that of bloated consumer.
